The Daily Trolloc (50)

Issue 50. (Art by t-biddy)

Wheel of Time News

Last Monday, Rafe Judkins "The Wheel of Time" Showrunner revealed the name of the first episode:

Art by Solomitus, Zooming by Narg

He also implied that there would be Wheel of Time teases/updates on Mondays(every Monday or just random Mondays is unclear):

That sounded great to Narg, so Narg went ahead and told his buddies that Monday was a no raid day for him. Then some bright spark decided to muddy the waters by suggesting Wednesday would be a better day.... 

Thanks Studmuffins! Now we have to wait until possibly Wednesday to see if Rafe was serious and if he actually meant every week! 😖 Of course WoT Monday or Wednesday could go the way of "Friday to infinity", and not happen.

What ever happens, one thing is clear, Narg will be going hungry this Monday...

Assumptions, Presumptions and Speculation...

The biggest and most dangerous presumption that Narg has seen flying around, is that these teases by Rafe mean that the TV show is actually happening. From Rafe's own fingers only a couple of weeks ago:

Until there is a formal announcement or a news report from a reliable source that Amazon have Picked up/Greenlit/ordered the show to series, then the show is still firmly in "Development". Meaning it might happen or it might not. One would hope that Rafe and Sony aren't repeating the sins of the past and raising fan expectations to high levels, only to not follow through like Red Eagle Entertainment did. As always, time will tell, but Narg thinks Rafe should be more clear about what these teases actually mean.

Another thing Narg is seeing a lot of, is people taking the name "Leavetaking" to mean that the first episode covers everything from the prologue to the end of chapter 10, and then using that to calculate how many episodes season one will be. That's about 5 episodes for just EotW and then presumably another 5 for tGH to make one season. Some people find that fine, others are worried that Rafe is trying to cram to much stuff into the first season and weirdly, some that he's not cramming enough in.

While it's fun to speculate, there just isn't enough information in the first episode being called "Leavetaking" to make any sound judgement. For starters we don't even know if Rafe is including the prologue, after the Winter Dragon debacle. We don't know how faithful to the books he's being, so chapter titles and number of chapters could be meaningless. We don't know how long approximately each episode will be(50m, 1hr..more) and most importantly we don't know how many episodes Rafe is working to per season(fixed amount or not). Narg did a rough, totally uneducated break down of the first book last year, and broke it into 10 episodes, but in reality it could be a short 6 episode first season or a longer 10-16 season, if it does include book two.

Narg's advice, have fun talking about it, but don't get all hot under the collar or worried, until we know more.

In the mean time Narg is imagining the following picture was originally a GoT poster of the Iron Throne and the WoT logo has burnt through/melted the throne and the liquid metal has reformed into Wheel of Time.😎

Gal Or aka Lightwaved is back at creating some WoT art:

Adam from the Wertzone is guessing that sales of aSoIaF have overtaken sales of WoT.
It's been coming for a while, but now the latest sales figures appear to confirm it's happened: sales of George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire fantasy series have surpassed those of Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time sequence, meaning that A Song of Ice and Fire is now the most popular epic fantasy series published since The Lord of the Rings (at least arguably).
Would be nice is publishers actually shared this stuff, instead of leaving it up to a "best guess" aka "rule of thumb".

Narg had an "inspired" casting choice for Padan Fain:

Guess who?

Wanna chew the fat and mb a leg or two with Narg, leave a comment on the forum or where ever he shares this post!

The Wheel of Time TV Show

What we know:

Status: "in development"
Production Studio - Sony Pictures Television
Production Company - Radar Pictures
Show Runner/Writers - Rafe Judkins, Amanda Kate Shuman(speculative)
Executive Producers - Ted FieldMike WeberDarren LemkeRed Eagle
Consulting Producer - Harriet McDougal


(14 July 2018) Rafe Judkins updated us on what he was working on:

 You can read everything he had to say HERE.

(11 June 2018) Amazon Studios Head, Jennifer Salke confirmed that the Wheel of Time is in development at Amazon during an interview with Deadline.
DEADLINE: What is the status of other high-profile genre projects that have been in early development at Amazon or stuck in deal-making limbo for a long time, The Wheel of Time (based on the fantasy books), and The Dark Tower, (based on the book and the movie)?
SALKE: Those are scripts that I haven’t gotten yet. I’ll be seeing those, that material, in the coming weeks. None of those things are dead. They’re very much alive.
While this is great news, Narg must stress that until Amazon come out and say that they have ordered the show to series and it goes into production, there is still a possibility that it won't happen.

Having said that though, Sharon Tal Yguado the Head of Genre at Amazon and the person who would be directly overseeing the work being done, seemed happy that the news was out.

(22 April 2018) Harriet McDougal confirmed that the show does have a distributor/network attached. This has been widely speculated but had not been confirmed by anyone attached to the show. No word on who, but Amazon remains the favorite given what's below and she said it wasn't a traditional network.

(9 April 2018) Head of Genre/Event series at Amazon Studio's Confirms Dark Tower via Twitter then deletes tweet. Though not directly related to WoT, this does lend credence to the Deadline article mentioned below. Narg was highly skeptical of WoT actually being in development with Amazon based on just that article, but it would seem highly probable that it is, now that the DT part has been proven correct. Also worth noting is that The DT showrunner mentioned having just completed a new script, and we know Rafe via Instagram inferred he had a deadline for his WoT script coming up a few weeks ago. Could be that they had the same Deadline.

(21 Feb 2018) In an article by Deadline concerning Amazon picking up Iain M. Banks’ classic sci-fi Culture book series, the following was said:
As part of the effort, Amazon made a mega deal for a Lord Of the Rings TV series and is developing a slew of high-profile titles, including The Dark TowerWheel of Time, Ringworld, Lazarus and Snow Crash.
Error, wishful thinking or letting the cat out of the bag? Which ever it is, Narg isn't believing it until Amazon themselves announce it or Deadline actually reports the news in a dedicated article.

Quite a few news websites have reported the story, most of them focusing on The Dark Tower mention using the above quote as their source. and IGN being the biggest of the bunch, but major Industry sites like Variety, The Hollywood Reporter haven't. is also choosing not to bite yet.

Attempts by Narg and others to get clarification from Deadline have yielded zero results and all Amazon had to say was: does not comment about rumors or speculative news reports.
(9 Feb 2018) Ted Field is in the news again and promoting The Wheel of Time.

In an article on Deadline he had the following to say:
"If Beirut is arriving at a difficult time, Field believes his TV show with Sony, Wheel of Time, may find its moment. The show is set in the distant future when women now rule a universe that has been all but destroyed by the male power structure – “the ultimate gender dynamics series,” Field says. The show is based on a series of 14 volumes written by Robert Jordan (pen name for James O. Rigney Jr). “Timing is part of the roller coaster ride,” Field observes.
(2 Feb 2018) Rafe Judkins the Wheel of Time Showrunner teased us with the Hashtag #WoTmeets LotR from Guatemala where he was on a writers retreat, seemingly indicating he was working on WoT.

Three weeks ago it was announced that Rafe had been picked to rewrite the Uncharted Movie. Looks like that gig isn't getting in the way of him working on WoT.

(18 Jan 2018) Ted Fields Lawyer spoke to the Hollywood Reporter and teased us with this:
One of those announcements will be a television series for Wheel of Time
Other than that not a peep since JordanCon back in April 2017, at which we learnt the following:
Sony Pictures Television has signed a contract with executive producer Ted Field of Radar Productions (with whom Bandersnatch Group signed a contract last year) to develop a TV production of the Wheel of Time series.
And a week or so later:
We understand that Rafe and Ted are currently in discussions with a number of content distributors/networks, and that negotiations will be concluded soon. Sorry, we don't know who they are.
Source for both comments from Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time Googleplus page.

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